Building the Iron Maiden - Insulated Reverse Flow Trailer Mounted Smoker

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Hi Everyone,

I know most of you have probably seen this as I posted it on another site, but Paul has suggested that we post it here too. It is long, so I will have to post a few entries on this one.

Last summer I built a large trailer mounted smoker that was quite a project for me. I thought I would post the build here so that you can see my adventure too. It is pretty long, so I thought I would post it in sections every few days so if you have any questions about the build I can answer them.

What I wanted was a trailer mounted reverse flow smoker with a side rib rack that was double walled and insulated. The plan was for the horizontal chamber to be 4' in length, and ~26 inches square. I am actually going to cut one corner off, so the side that the doors are on is not sitting vertical, but slanted a bit...sort of like a side view of the old time Ice Machines that sat outside of gas stations and grocery stores...). In my graphic, the red is the fire, and it will traverse the horizontal unit and enter the blue smoking chamber. It will then flow across the meat, and then enter the side rib rack at the bottom (represented by the yellow). It will exit the top through a 4" square chimney.

I had some basic ideas in my head of what I wanted it to look like, but I “Engineered” most of it as I went along and made changes as I needed to. My original idea looked something like this.
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I had built some smaller cabinets that were double walled and insulated, so I had a good Idea what I was getting into…
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I first problem that I ran into was getting the metal onto the saw horses. I am using 10 Gauge CR steel (.134" thick) and some of the sheets I have are 4' X 10' and weigh 225 lbs. I Had Mrs. Engineer who weighs in at a whopping 130 lbs drippin' wet help me! It was touch and go when we about tipped the sawhorses over, but we got through it. Once I had the sheet on the sawhorse, I decided that a 48" horizontal chamber just isn't going to do it for me, so I decided to go with a 60" horizontal chamber.

I'll start with the tools I am using...Here is my new plasma cutter...It is really nice!
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Here is my welder...I used FCAW (flux core) as I weld outside my shop.
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Here is a sheet of steel on the sawhorses ready for layout. I actually got the steel for scrap price...don't look like scrap to me!!
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Here I am working with my new torch...
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Mrs. Engineer was helping me with some photos.
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Plasma cutters are really sweet for slicing this stuff up. I am a rookie with my new unit, but I will be a pro in no time.
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Plasma Cutter 101 - The Plasma cutter is strictly for cutting metal. Without getting to much into what Mrs. Engineer calls “Nerd Speak”, Plasma is the fourth state of matter (from science class), and occurs when you boost a gas to extremely high temperatures. Plasma cutters utilize this principle by sending a pressurized gas (in this case, regular old compressed air) through a small channel across a negatively charged electrode. When you touch the torch to your workpiece and pull the trigger, a circuit is completed which generates a powerful spark. This heats the air moving through the nozzle until it reaches approximately 30,000° farenheit, moving at 20,000 feet per second. This will make precision cuts in metal, that have the cut quality of using a bandsaw. This is preferred over Oxy Acetylene torches as it is much safer, and the quality of cut cannot be beat. Using the plasma cutter, the surrounding metal gets hot, but the cut happens so quickly that it doesn’t get anywhere near as hot as a regular acetelyne torch. The Oxy Acetylene torch will melt the metal and then blow it away, where the Plasma cutter really just slices through it. I can’t explain it any better than that.

Mig Welder info - My welder is a mig welder, and has a spool of wire inside the unit. When I press the trigger on the gun, this wire acts as the electrode and is fed at a constant rate to the workpiece, melting the workpiece (and wire). The wire is then deposited as well and acts as a filler to fill gaps and voids. I am using flux core wire, which is self shielding because it has a center that, when burned creates a shielding for the welding process. If I didn’t use this, I would have to have some sort of backing gas. Since I weld outside and there is frequently wind here in Kansas, creating the shield at the actual weld is probably better than if I were to use gas to do the same thing.

I got some pieces welded together and am starting to form the horizontal chamber. I started by building a jig out of 2X4’s to form a right angle that I could use to set the pieces on. I have fought and fought with magnets in the past, and I am just not going there. I have also decided that I quickly need to get the bottom side of this thing finished, because it is going to get too heavy to easily move around for me.

Here is the jig I built, and the bottom of the horizontal chamber in place.
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Next, I put the back of the horizontal chamber so it sat on the bottom at a right angle. I put some angle iron in the corner and tacked it all together. Then I came back and filled in the rest of the weld so the entire thing was welded. I welded this in sections, as if you just throw heat at it nonstop, the workpiece can warp and twist…therefore I choose to do it in pieces.
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Then I cut the front of the inside chamber. Here is a picture of the dross or slag that the plasma cutter leaves on the bottom of a cut. It is nothing compared to an Oxy Acetelyne torch, and pops off if you whack it.
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If you touch it with a grinder it leaves a good edge to weld to.
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I welded the front inside shell for the horizontal chamber in place.
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Here is the inside shell of the horizontal chamber…front, back, and bottom.
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I got the side of the horizontal chamber cut out, and it will show what I mean by looking like an old time Ice Chest that sat outside of a gas station or a grocery store.
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I don't know if I have shown a decent photo of what a clean cut that a plasma cutter will make. I have never used one before I got mine, so I am in no way a professional with it...it just makes me look like one. Here is a top view of the cut. You can see that it really does slice through, and doesn't heat the metal up hardly at all...the heat affected zone barely extends past the cut! The angle iron is used as a guide so I can keep a straight cut.
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Here is the same cut except looking at the cut edge...it is really clean. Man, good tools make all the difference!
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Messing around with the baffle plate has consumed a lot of time, but I think I am done. I have seen some plates where they use a piece of angle iron in the center and then slope sheets to the center channel. I decided to just slope them to the center in the first place. I will add a drain once I get it welded in place.
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I have mounted it 6 inches from the bottom shell, and 6 inches from the side wall. There will be a flat that extends into the firebox. Here is how it will look. I will clean up all the welds before welding it in, because once it is in, I can't get tools in to shine it up. I also have the side of the horizontal chamber welded in place.
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I also have started to weld on the frame that will separate the inner and outer wall. It is 1" square tubing, 11 Gauge and .120" wall thickness (far right of pic).
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For Insulation, I am going to use a product called "Superwool 607". It is a ceramic fiber blanket that is used in kilns and ovens. It is rated at over 2000° and is way over-kill for what I am doing, but it is easy to work with, has great insulatory properties, and is conveniently packaged. You can check it out here:
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I got the baffle plate welded in, and then the top of the horizontal chamber on.
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This is looking under the baffle plate
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I started on the vertical rib rack...Here I am checking it for fit...using my 10 lb micro adjuster to get it positioned properly.
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I got the vertical chamber all put together. The smoker is laying on it's back.
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I got the two sections welded together, and then turned it right side up to start framing it and putting the insulation and outer shell on....it is freakin’ heavy. At this point in my build, progress stalled when I had an accident while unloading some supplies from the trailer and ended up in the ER to get my leg put back together. The beautiful and talented Mrs. Engineer about came un-glued when I wanted to go down and work on it. In retrospect, Mrs. Engineer was right…I took some time to get healed back up and then hit it again.

Here it is right side up. I have started framing the doors on the horizontal section, and have put some framing on for the insulation to fit inside.
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Here is a pic of where the insulation will fit, between the frame that separates the inside and outside shell.
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I took my time and did this so that the entire front panel is on the same plane so the doors will fit and seal right. Here is a photo of the doors that I have framed out. They include a piece of channel that will accept a rope gasket to seal the doors tight.
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Here is a closeup of the door frames, and you can see the channel. I have the trim pieces set in place, as I haven't welded them yet.
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Here it is with a small piece of rope gasket in place to demonstrate what I'm going for. The gasket protrudes above the channel so the flat doors (that I have yet to build) will smash against the gasket and create an air tight seal.
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Since I am using two outer skins that sandwich insulation, I like to use hardened concrete nails that are 1" and weld them to the inside skin, and then the insulation will punch down on that. This works great on vertical surfaces, as it holds the insulation in place while I mess around and get the outer skin tacked on. It also serves as a method of keeping the skins separated by 1"...not that this is a problem with the heavy gauge that I am using, but what can I say...I'm an over-builder!
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Here are my welds...not to bad for an untrained DIY'er using flux core weld wire!
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Here the top is getting ready for some insulation...You can see the nails that I have welded in.
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Here is the insulation that I am using. It is Superwool 607, and is rated at over 2000°. They use it in kilns and ovens.
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Here is a vertical piece that is the first to get welded shut. Insulation is in, and the outer skin is going on next.
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Vertical part of the rib rack is tacked on, and I'm starting to insulate the top of the horizontal chamber.
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This is all you need to work with this insulation...it's pretty cool stuff. About the consistency of a really dense and heavy cotton candy.
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Top of the horizontal chamber - insulated and ready for the outer skin.
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The metal I’m using is 10 Gauge CR steel that is .134" thick. I don't have to choose where to insulate, because the entire thing is insulated...if there isn't a cross member, there is insulation. I have found that it makes such a difference, as weather has no impact whatsoever. My verticals are really efficient, and can go for over 12 hours at 250° with a little over 1 1/2 chimneys of charcoal and a couple fist sized pieces of apple chunks. Because I am using a heavy gauge metal, the exterior does get warm due to the heat sink effect of the metal, but that is it, just warm. You can set your beer coozie on top of my smoker with little fear of melting the coozie, or worse yet making your beer warm!

My neighbors have been a big help to me with this project, helping me rotate the smoker so I can work on the back. I cut the outer shell to size, and marked it for some black pipe pass throughs. Here I am marking out the placement.
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Got the holes drilled through both skins, making sure that they were perpindicular to the shell.
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Fitting the pipe to make sure all is good!
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Here is my rationale on two pass through pipes...in my pic above, the dashed lines are where my internal grates will be for the horizontal chamber (I am planning on a bottom grate and then a pull out shelf. I wanted a pass through for each level, so I didn't have to thread a thermo cable through a grate. Especially if I make them pull out shelves (which I probably will). If you have a thermo cable threaded through a pull out grate, it never fails that it gets caught on something, wants to pull out of whatever it is stuck in, gets pinched when you return the shelf, and so on. This way, I can go right to whatever I want to probe without the hassle. I'm all about minimizing the hassle!

Here is my progress for tonight...I put a third pass through in the vertical rib rack...you know, for future expansion and that little self basting apple spritzer experiment I was talking about. Here is the entire back layout, just checking for a proper fit.
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Welded in a bed of nails for the insulation to punch down onto. I figure if nothing else, this smoker is going to be on a trailer bouncing down the road, and I don't want the insulation moving around or settling between the walls.
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Insulation installed...SWEET!
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Here is the pass throughs that I cut earlier...I just cut out a small hole in the insulation for the NPT Pipe.
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Before I put the outer skin on, I clean them up really well, so they are good and clean against the insulation.
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I have been working like crazy, with every last minute of free time spent in the shop. I had a deadline of the 4th of July for the inaugural smoke, and time is running out. It won't be painted, and I will still have some bells and whistles to put on, but I am determined to have doors on it, have it burned out / cleaned up, and seasoned by then…It has to be able to hold meat and hold heat! Here is where I am at, and I can tell you with certainty, that pictures don't do justice to how hard I have been working on this, and how far I have come.

I put the drain line in.
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I have also read that someone with a new unit (maybe a bell fab unit??) loved their ash dump to really stoke up the fire as well. I don't know how this is going to sit on the trailer as of yet, but I wanted to make sure that I could do this as an option, so I framed it out on the bottom of the firebox, and If I decide to install the ash dump / under fire damper, I just need to cut through both skins with my plasma cutter, slide the pipe into place, and weld it. I also have a really cool idea for a slider damper out of this ash dump thing should it materialize. The cover for the ash dump would be attached to a rod, and you would slide the rod at the front of the firebox from one side of the firebox to the other around a hinge point, effectively giving you a 90° rotation, which would move the cover from fully open to fully closed...It would work really sweet. For now, I will just weld the skin shut, and the fact that the framing is there will be my little secret!
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The Lower side of the firebox ready to be covered. The ceramic wool blanket really is a blanket...that is 1 inch thick!
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Side view of the firebox / rib rack, and the back of the unit complete with pass through pipes. When completed, the skin welds will be ground flat, and the corner welds on the skin will be ground to right angles. Trust me, this thing will look sweet.
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Wow it is hot outside...heat index of 112° or so, and I am working every spare moment that I have in the heat, slugging away at this thing. I have rotated the smoker the last time, and have put all of the outer shell on except the top of the rib rack, because I have to cut in the chimney on that one. I have started on the doors and here is where I am....

Here is a pic of the smoker laying on it's back. The first door is laying on the side rib rack...it is ready to go, except for the thermometer connection.
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Here is the inside of the door, and I added some strongback bracing to keep it from warping....oh yeah, it is insulated too!
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I thought I would make the hinges. I am cutting some pipe and using some all thread for the rod. 1/2" iron pipe has an outside diameter of .840", with a wall thickness of .109" by subtracting two times the wall thickness, this gives you an internal diameter of .622". It just so happens that 5/8 bolts carry a maximum diameter of .6236" with a minimum of .6149". I know for a fact that they won't be running at the top end of tolerance, so I checked the tolerance stackup of some galvanized all thread rod (superior corrosion resistance was my goal), and some 1/2" black iron pipe. It was a tight fit and I thought this combination would make some awesome hinges...besides, it was really beefy and strong with a 5/8 inch pin, and would leave me a great welding surface against the iron pipe...not to mention that for the price of a single hinge at the local bbq supply house, I have enough pipe and all thread to make hinges for all of the smokers that I see in my future. And, I can cut the hinge elements to whatever length I want and add as many elements together as I want...I could even make this into a low cost super strength piano hinge! Now that is what I call custom made!
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Here is a five inch hinge put together. I think I will put nuts on the all thread at first, that way I can get the pin out if I need to, and weld it up after I get it all cleaned up.
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It's really hot / humid again...boy that really makes it nice to work in. I will be taking frequent water breaks today, and will post photos that I have taken along the way, so there may be a flurry of activity as I sprint across the finish line....


Here is Door #2 for the horizontal chamber. The strong back is different than the first one. As long as I can eliminate (read as minimize) corner to corner lateral warping, it will work.
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Double walled and insulated smokers aren't for the weak...you ain't opening my smoker unless you can curl 60 lbs! Here is one of the horizontal doors on an el cheapo scale...Mrs. Engineer wouldn't let me use the nice digital one.
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Here is the thermometer fitting for the doors...to protect the threads against weld spatter, be sure to put a pipe nipple in it.
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The door getting the skins welded on.
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I made my 4th of July Deadline for having the smoker ready to smoke, but I paid a heavy price in terms of being absolutely exhausted...All week long! I haven't even thought about the smoker this week, other than to look at the cost of trailer parts versus buying a trailer on craig's list.

Here are the photos as I went along. As I got really busy, I have noticed that my photos kind of trailed off, however.

Here I am laying out the firebox door, and putting together a slide for the air intake.
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Here is the inside of the door with framing inserted and some strong back frames to prevent corner to corner warping. This door was super heavy duty with both skins and all the framing.
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Insulated where it counts!
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I bagged the All thread for my hinge rod, and went with a straight 5/8 inch rod (the all thread had a slight bit too much clearance when inserted into the pipe. This straight rod wouldn't go into the pipe I had selected, but a rat tail file to take out the small seam in the pipe did the trick. These were some awesome hinges!! They are so tight, that I haven't even secured the rod, but it just stays there. I can remove it with a hammer if I need to.
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Here are the components of the door seal. I used 3/4" rope gasket which fits really nice in the 1" X 1/2" channel. Lay down a good bead of adhesive, and press the gasket into it. Put on the doors and let it set. The first fire it will fully cure to a brick hard set. It makes a great seal.
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The Chimney - I made the chimney removeable by framing an outlet in the top and then a receiver inside the cabinet. It drops right into the top, and seats inside perfectly. It is completely secure, and doesn't move around at all. I didn't take any photos of this point, but I did this so I can get the smoker back inside my shop if I need to (and I will while I finish up the construction after my first smoke and then paint this baby!).

Here it is outside of my shop, standing tall and ready to be put on a trailer. Before we did that, I cracked it open and pressure washed the heck out of it.
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Here are my neighbors helping me move this thing. The tractor had a 1250 lb limit on the scoop, and it wouldn't raise it by itself. It would raise it up if we helped it, and then start to slowly lower. I have a great bunch of beer drinking, story telling, BBQ eating neighbors that will help when it is needed. Not shown...the tractor driver!
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Helping lift the thing the last few inches with a floor jack.
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At one point, the gator that we were using got lifted off the ground in the back, as the smoker tilted the trailer. Here it is in position and a fire to burn the thing out.
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When it got really hot, I opened it up and sprayed it down with the garden hose. It was unbelievable how much it hissed and popped. Check out the cool BBQ scar on my leg from my earlier ER Trip.
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It looked like a locomotive with all of the steam coming out of it!
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The next day I put shelves in it, and started a fire to season it. Sprayed everything down with PAM...repeatedly, and made my first attempt to control the temp. I mean, after all, I'm smoking for real in only 5 hours, I might as well learn how to control this thing! Here is the rib rack full-O-Spares!
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Here are some Butts, Briskets, and more ribs along with my favorite rib skirt from the membrane side. Later I threw on 30 lbs of chicken legs and 15 more of sausage.
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I had my vertical in the game too...just in case this one got away from me, I would still have something to serve! Here they are oozing some thin blue smoke...not bad for my first attempt with this one!
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That is where my pics of the smoke end...as then I was busy cutting things up and shredding butts for the party. I will say that it was fantastic, and Mrs. Engineer (who could easily be a vegetarian) absolutely loved the brisket. She ate more of it this time than she has ever eaten before, having some for leftover for 3 consecutive nights! That to me says success!

We have a fantastic neighborhood blowout every year, and here are some more pics of our party.


Trailer of fireworks ready for deployment! In the background, lots of people enjoying my 'Que from my new rig!
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No party is complete without a "Wall of Fireworks"! Here is 64,000 firecrackers ready to make some noise. I will tell you that this is awesome!
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Wall of fireworks closeup...
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Truck of fireworks getting staged...
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Hey...there is more in the garage...and I swear, these aren't duplicates!
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Wait...there's more in the garage!
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And on the hill...Kids don't try this at home!
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The smoker worked great, and the 4th was fantastic too. Now I have to get a trailer under this and get it prettied up a bit. I am really happy with the performance of it, as a small fire dampered way down was all it took.
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I got the neighbors together and we moved the smoker onto it's very own trailer. We got way smarter in the process too, because it was almost too easy!

I took the door off of the top chamber and this lightened the load. We stopped short of taking all of the doors off when the tractor lifted it no problem.
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This time, we made the transfer on more level ground. That made everyone a little more sure footed!
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We strapped the smoker further back on the lever arm, reducing the leverage required, and increasing the mechanical advantage...worked like a champ!
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Off of one trailer, and we moved that one out of the way. Drove the smoker a few feet forward, and then backed the new trailer under it.
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After we moved the smoker, one of my neighbors wanted to drive my zero turn mower. After he made a couple of loops around the driveway, I flagged him over, kicked on the blades, and I felt just like Tom Sawyer as he mowed my yard and I sat there and drank a beer!
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Got the smoker welded to the trailer, and took a test drive to make sure all was good. It passed with flying colors! Moved it back to the shop.
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It is now back in the shop and I am in the process of finishing it and spit shining the thing in preparation of painting it. Yup...I just love standing on my head welding upside down under the thing.
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Here is Hannah my helper cow dog. She was kind of freaked out at my power tools and some of the loud noises that were coming from the shop. You can tell, because her tail is way tucked under her belly.
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I took this weekend to sand and prep the smoker for some paint. I used a DA Sander and gave my air compressor a workout. I also used a twisted wire cup brush and I have the whole thing done. I will be doing a little bit more prep, and then painting this week / weekend. Mrs. Engineer is going to pick colors (I am strongly suggesting some combination of Red, Black, and Silver like in my smaller cabinet that is on page 1 of this thread). Here is the smoker about mid way through cleanup and paint prep. I'm pretty sure that you can tell what I have done and what is yet to be done. The whole thing is as shiny as a new silver dollar now!

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I painted my smoker, and just in time for next week's comp. Here's the smoker, fresh out of the shop with some high temp primer and engine paint on it. I have a couple of touch ups to do, but for all intents and purposes, I am done with this one.

My finger got so tired, I had to use my thumb!!
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This is probably the best it will ever look. I'm filling the neighborhood with TBS tomorrow...I'm gonna have me some ribs and a few beers while I watch football!
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I welded some hatchets on the top, so it looks like they have been embedded in the steel. They make great door stops and Mrs. Engineer thought it would be a cool touch.
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I told Mrs. Engineer "I think it looks pretty good"...she said "honey, a lot of people build their own smokers but this one is in a completely different league." Thank you Mrs. Engineer for that compliment. I worked really hard on this one. I hope all you enjoyed it too!
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I wanted to post a pic for all of you wondering if the insulation really makes a difference or not. I had the smoker fired up all day, and at one point the thermo hit 300...the outer skin was just warm...not hot, just warm.

I doubt you would be doing this with a single wall smoker at 300°!!
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Wow, Dana! That's one beautiful smoker. I don't know how I missed your posts earlier, but I'm amazed. My only problem would be trying to get it opened. Having COPD, I don't think I'll be hoisting those sixty pounds doors. #:T
 
I always love looking at your build...Because of you I am building mine....don't know if I should thank ya or what...lol.... *#* *p1*
 
What can one say??? That thing is a work of art, it brings a tear to my eye! *b*

If your ever in North Alabama and need a place to park it I have 500 + acres you can use! )3(
 
I've seen it before but it still amazes me *lg*. I'll take one of those little ones in the background gr1
 
BBQ; I will encourage you to bring the images here to be locally hosted and not on PB. I can convert the links but it would be better if you saved them on your system and then uploaded them. I will fix your fix post.
 
GOT14U;1788 said:
Hey engineer we want to see all the fireworks this year as well.

Jerod,

The party has gotten so big, that we had already had neighborhood planning meetings (beer drinking BS sessions) and have added a live band that plays at a lot of BBQ contests and Blues / BBQ events (they were at last year's DeSoto Blues and BBQ, and also at the Great American BBQ a few weeks ago)...they just happen to be my direct neighbors to the south! How freakin' cool is that! We not only have a band, they they are really good too! Last year was their first year at our party, and even though we told them it was huge, you really never get a grasp of it until you experience it. The last couple of years I have cooked a couple hundred lbs of meat. Our fireworks are beyond what some towns do, and are put on by another neighbot that is requested to do shows at the Lake of the Ozarks...they have gone for hours before. The new neighbors were so blown away last year that they were just giddy with excitement about this year. It's gonna be great!

We're kicking off this year the weekend before with a Tie-Dye BBQ and beer-fest pool party. Then everyone of the hosts will wear Tie-Dye to the 4th of July party so they'll be easy to pick out. I'll take lots of pics this year since I'm not building a rig...thank goodness I'm not behind the eight ball with several hundred people counting on me for bbq spending all of my waking and a lot of my sleeping hours building a rig.
 
to kool.wish I lived a little closer to ya...sounds like a great neighborhood
BBQ Engineer;1789 said:
Jerod,

The party has gotten so big, that we had already had neighborhood planning meetings (beer drinking BS sessions) and have added a live band that plays at a lot of BBQ contests and Blues / BBQ events (they were at last year's DeSoto Blues and BBQ, and also at the Great American BBQ a few weeks ago)...they just happen to be my direct neighbors to the south! How freakin' cool is that! We not only have a band, they they are really good too! Last year was their first year at our party, and even though we told them it was huge, you really never get a grasp of it until you experience it. The last couple of years I have cooked a couple hundred lbs of meat. Our fireworks are beyond what some towns do, and are put on by another neighbot that is requested to do shows at the Lake of the Ozarks...they have gone for hours before. The new neighbors were so blown away last year that they were just giddy with excitement about this year. It's gonna be great!

We're kicking off this year the weekend before with a Tie-Dye BBQ and beer-fest pool party. Then everyone of the hosts will wear Tie-Dye to the 4th of July party so they'll be easy to pick out. I'll take lots of pics this year since I'm not building a rig...thank goodness I'm not behind the eight ball with several hundred people counting on me for bbq spending all of my waking and a lot of my sleeping hours building a rig.
 
Dang sounds like a party to me... Wish I still lived in DeSoto... :bravo1:
Maybe I should donate some Rub and Sauce...
 
just purchased a charcoal grill that has a firebox mounted to the side of it. I would like to know when I smoke ribs or meat do I keep the meat in the firebox or in the grill (and how far from the source of heat)? There is an opening between the two where the smoke and heat would flow from the firebox into the grill. Seeing how this is my first time smoking I wanted to be sure...

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hey alston. It all depends on what you are wanting to do with the meat. A good thing would be to have a temp gauge and see the diffirent heat zones and go from there. You might wanna start a new thread. you might get more replys about it there. good luck !
alston;1991 said:
just purchased a charcoal grill that has a firebox mounted to the side of it. I would like to know when I smoke ribs or meat do I keep the meat in the firebox or in the grill (and how far from the source of heat)? There is an opening between the two where the smoke and heat would flow from the firebox into the grill. Seeing how this is my first time smoking I wanted to be sure...

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BBQ Engineer;1151 said:
I got the neighbors together and we moved the smoker onto it's very own trailer. We got way smarter in the process too, because it was almost too easy!

I took the door off of the top chamber and this lightened the load. We stopped short of taking all of the doors off when the tractor lifted it no problem.
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This time, we made the transfer on more level ground. That made everyone a little more sure footed!
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We strapped the smoker further back on the lever arm, reducing the leverage required, and increasing the mechanical advantage...worked like a champ!
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Off of one trailer, and we moved that one out of the way. Drove the smoker a few feet forward, and then backed the new trailer under it.
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After we moved the smoker, one of my neighbors wanted to drive my zero turn mower. After he made a couple of loops around the driveway, I flagged him over, kicked on the blades, and I felt just like Tom Sawyer as he mowed my yard and I sat there and drank a beer!
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Got the smoker welded to the trailer, and took a test drive to make sure all was good. It passed with flying colors! Moved it back to the shop.
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It is now back in the shop and I am in the process of finishing it and spit shining the thing in preparation of painting it. Yup...I just love standing on my head welding upside down under the thing.
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Here is Hannah my helper cow dog. She was kind of freaked out at my power tools and some of the loud noises that were coming from the shop. You can tell, because her tail is way tucked under her belly.
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I took this weekend to sand and prep the smoker for some paint. I used a DA Sander and gave my air compressor a workout. I also used a twisted wire cup brush and I have the whole thing done. I will be doing a little bit more prep, and then painting this week / weekend. Mrs. Engineer is going to pick colors (I am strongly suggesting some combination of Red, Black, and Silver like in my smaller cabinet that is on page 1 of this thread). Here is the smoker about mid way through cleanup and paint prep. I'm pretty sure that you can tell what I have done and what is yet to be done. The whole thing is as shiny as a new silver dollar now!

[Broken External Image]:http://i609.photobucket.com/albums/tt176/arctikdog/smokers/Reverse flow/100_4587.jpg

I painted my smoker, and just in time for next week's comp. Here's the smoker, fresh out of the shop with some high temp primer and engine paint on it. I have a couple of touch ups to do, but for all intents and purposes, I am done with this one.

My finger got so tired, I had to use my thumb!!
[Broken External Image]:http://i609.photobucket.com/albums/tt176/arctikdog/smokers/Reverse flow/100_4588.jpg

This is probably the best it will ever look. I'm filling the neighborhood with TBS tomorrow...I'm gonna have me some ribs and a few beers while I watch football!
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I welded some hatchets on the top, so it looks like they have been embedded in the steel. They make great door stops and Mrs. Engineer thought it would be a cool touch.
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I told Mrs. Engineer "I think it looks pretty good"...she said "honey, a lot of people build their own smokers but this one is in a completely different league." Thank you Mrs. Engineer for that compliment. I worked really hard on this one. I hope all you enjoyed it too!
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I wanted to post a pic for all of you wondering if the insulation really makes a difference or not. I had the smoker fired up all day, and at one point the thermo hit 300...the outer skin was just warm...not hot, just warm.

I doubt you would be doing this with a single wall smoker at 300°!!
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I have heard/read that most offset smokers with horizontal and verticle cooking chambers have issues with the verticle chamber not staying hot enough.. I believe this is due to the construction of firebox on one end, horizontal in the middle and verticle on the end... I have long thought that the design type you used would not have this issue and would use the heat more efficiently.. Have you taken any temp readings fromthe verticle to horizonal??

Thanks,
Les